Saturday, 20 December 2025

Political and Apolitical Panpsychism: Philip Goff vs David Chalmers

 


Various metaphysical positions have been tied (or linked) to ideologies or political positions. The latest contender for this role is panpsychism. The panpsychist Philip Goff, for example, ties panpsychism to a politics of a very particular kind. This isn’t an unfair claim because there are many explicit statements from Goff which make this crystal clear. Not only that: in this essay readers will see that Goff himself ties (or links) rival metaphysical positions to specific ideological or political positions. (Dualism and materialism are good examples of this.)

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“My goal is to understand consciousness, not to advocate for policies. Panpsychism is a philosophical tool, not a manifesto.”

David Chalmers (Source: Mind & Matter podcast with Nick Jikomes, 2021.)


Philip Goff in 2018. Wiki Commons. Source here.

At a prima facie level, it may seem odd that panpsychism can be tied to politics. In simple terms, that’s because panpsychism is a metaphysical position. Of course, metaphysical positions have been connected to political positions in the past. Indeed, some metaphysical positions were actually seen as being political positions. Dialectical materialism is one good example of this. (Stephen Jay Gould, who was a palaeontologist and biologist, tied his science to dialectical materialism.) If we flip to science, then many would argue that “the science of race” has always been an arm of politics. In addition, all this is still happening today, so there’s no need to name names…

The problem is that when philosophers or scientists get hooked on political causes, issues or concerns, they then attempt to place philosophical or scientific round pegs into political square holes. What’s more, their philosophies and science often becomes corrupted. In other words, what if the science or philosophy doesn’t really back a political position up? Would the scientist or philosopher then need to push a round peg into a square hole?

Of course, for all those who believe that “all science is political”, and, indeed, that literally “everything is political”, there will be no problem here.

Is Panpsychism a Political Movement?

The panpsychist philosopher Philip Goff wants to inspire a political movement. In Mind Chat (2021), he said:

“If we see trees and rivers as conscious, it changes the way we legislate and act politically. Panpsychism could inspire a movement where environmental protection becomes a moral imperative, not just a pragmatic choice.”

As Karl Marx put it: “The philosophers have only interpreted the world in various ways; the point, however, is to change it.”

The quote from Goff above, similarly, just makes it seem as if truth doesn’t really matter. What matters is what works… politically. And Goff clearly believes that panpsychism may work when it comes to “inspiring a movement”. Yet Goff himself must be well aware of those legions of poststructuralist and postmodernists philosophers who’ve explicitly stated that truth isn’t the issue: political change is the issue. So, at its extreme, falsehoods may bring about political change. (Thus, we have “lying for justice” and “the ends justify the means” too.)

So there’s absolutely no doubt that Goff is tying panpsychism (or his own version of panpsychism) to political concerns and causes. There are very many quotes that make that very clear.

Early Goff

Goff says that panpsychism “speaks to people on a deeper level — emotionally, ethically” (The Ezra Klein Show, 2023). That said, he needed to to do the technical work before speaking to people on a deeper level. If he hadn’t done so, then he’d have simply come across as a fluffy New Age guru.

In terms of that early technical work, let Goff speak for himself:

“Looking back, my early papers were dense and maybe a bit inaccessible. Over time, I realized panpsychism isn’t just a solution to the hard problem of consciousness — it has implications for how we live, how we treat the planet. That’s where my focus has shifted.”

Elsewhere, in an interview with Ricardo Lopes, he said:

“When I first started writing about panpsychism in the mid-2000s, it was all about the combination problem and the intrinsic nature of matter — very dry, very analytical. I was trying to solve philosophical puzzles, not change the world.”

Goff’s socialism predates his panpsychism by many years. In specific terms, he started tying panpsychism to socialist politics roundabout 2017. However, his commitment to socialism dates back to the 1980s. This isn’t only my take, it’s Goff’s too. In an interview with Lex Fridman, Goff said that “[a]s a socialist dating back to my teens, I believed in equal worth long before metaphysics”.

Now let’s get down to brass tacks.

Goff spoke the following words:

“The terrible mass destruction of forests we witnessed in Brazil in recent years under Bolsonaro have a different moral character if we see them as the burning of conscious organisms.”

Here’s the kind of thing which might have happened here.

Goff was shocked at what was happening to the forests in Brazil. However, he’s not a politician or even a political activist. So the next best thing is to do his bit through philosophy — through a commitment to panpsychism.

Of course, this could be classed as psychologising on my part. However, it’s definitely not tangential. After all, Goff himself has said that he

“agree[s] on the benefit of panpsychism to eco-philosophy and have in the past made similar arguments”.

Human Persons and Trees

Goff was at his most honest and explicit when he stated the following words on Mind Chat:

“If we see trees and rivers as conscious, it changes the way we legislate and act politically. Panpsychism could inspire a movement where environmental protection becomes a moral imperative, not just a pragmatic choice.”

Sceptically, this can be read as Goff implying that he doesn’t actually believe that trees and rivers are conscious, However, he does believe that it would be a good thing if we all believed this.

To put is simply, Goff wants to further various political causes which he sees as being righteous and profoundly important. (In this case, it’s the exploitation of the world’s resources.) However, Goff is both a philosopher and a panpsychist. Thus, in an interview with Joe Rogan in 2022, Goff stated the following words:

“The capitalist mindset treats nature as a resource to exploit, but if everything has some degree of consciousness, that exploitation becomes ethically and politically indefensible. Panpsychism challenges the economic status quo.”

Readers may wonder what would happen if people took Goff’s position to its furthest point, or to its logical conclusion. Thus, if literally all entities instantiate consciousness to some degree, then what about the carrots we eat, or the flies we kill with fly spray? Goff may argue that the various degrees of consciousness need to be taken into account when such questions are asked. So does a tree in a rain forest instantiate a higher degree of consciousness than a carrot? If it does, then why does it do so?

Goff again explicitly expressed his politics when he mentioned “the idea that the other has equal worth to yourself is to overcome individualism and ego”. Can we move from seeing other human persons as having equal worth, to seeing trees as having equal worth to persons? Perhaps Goff would say that he’s not demanding that we go that far. He may well stress his “levels of consciousness” argument here.

In a similar vein, Goff said that

“[i]t would be nice if reality as a whole was unified in a common purpose [ ] what would be nice needs to be backed up with some science and some philosophy”.

It would be nice if reality as a whole was unified in a common purpose. What if bogus science or bogus philosophy could help with that job?

Naomi Klein and Goff on the Politics of Dualism and Materialism

In an interview, Goff mentioned the political writer Naomi Klein. A commentator said:

“Noting that Naomi Klein blames dualism for our degradation of the environment, Goff speculates that children reared in a panpsychist tradition would be less indifferent to and more protective of the environment.”

Oddly enough, Goff used to be a dualist. Of course, there’s been a long tradition of tying “Western dualism” to our treatment of the environment and other animals. So some of what is said is based on truth. There are problems here though... However, that doesn’t matter at this juncture because Goff is basically arguing that dualism led to bad things, and panpsychism will lead to good things.

As just stated, Naomi Klein mentioned dualism, Goff quoted Klein, and both tie it to the mistreatment of animals and to capitalism.

What about materialism?

Goff rejects dualism and materialism, and he cites political and ethical reasons for rejecting both. Wikipedia tells its readers that Goff

“holds that materialism is ‘incoherent’ and that dualism leads to ‘complexity, discontinuity and mystery’”.

Dualism can also be (or has been) tied to anthropocentrism. Goff discussed anthropocentrism with Ricardo Lopes in 2012. He said: [Quote]

“Anthropocentrism has led us to a crisis of empathy. Panpsychism offers a way out by recognizing consciousness in all things, forcing us to rethink our ethical priorities.”

Philip Goff’s Religion

This essay has so far focused on Goff’s politics. He’s religious too. So just as he ties his panpsychism to politics, so he also ties panpsychism to religion…. but not to “conventional religion”. Here’s Goff explaining himself on The Infinite Monkey Cage (BBC Radio 4):

“I don’t subscribe to traditional religion, but panpsychism offers a spiritual perspective where the universe itself has a kind of mind or purpose, which resonates with ancient intuitions about a living cosmos.”

Elsewhere, Goff goes into detail as to why he doesn’t like Western monotheism, and why he does like other “spiritual traditions”. In Lex Fridman’s Podcast, Goff said:

“The idea of a conscious universe suggests a purpose that aligns with what many spiritual traditions have sought — a unity that transcends the material. I find that spiritually compelling, even if it’s not God in the traditional sense.”

In terms of spirituality, if not religion, Goff said:

“There are those such as Hedda Hassel Mørch, Itay Shani, and myself who do have certain convictions which may be called spiritual or at least which depart more radically from our standard naturalistic picture of reality than bog standard panpsychism.”

Goff seems to be saying that naturalism has no place for the spiritual. He may be right, or he may be wrong. However, humanists would certainly disagree with him on this.

Animism has been deemed to be a (proto) religion.

Goff tells us that that he thinks that “some folks can maybe conflate [panpsychism] with something akin to animism”. (Stated on the Tim Ferriss Show.) It’s not as clear as Goff believes that panpsychism can be distinguished from animism. After all, take the positions of the panpsychist Rudy Rucker.

Oddly enough, Goff himself has used the words “associate”, “meaningless”, “preferential treatment”, “for their young”, “mother”, “kin”, “prejudice”, “reciprocal support”, “passing along” “egalitarian redistribution” and “dinnertime” when referring to trees and their behaviour. (These words can all be found in Goff’s book Galileo’s Error.)

Rudy Rucker’s Panpsychism

In ‘Mind is a universally distributed quality’ , Rudy Rucker says that “[e]ach object has a mind”. That is, “[s]tars, hills, chairs, rocks, scraps of paper, flakes of skin, molecules” all have minds. (Note: not consciousness or “proto-consciousness”: minds!)

Rucker then adds his political slant:

“If the rocks on my property have minds, I feel more respect for them in their natural state. If I feel myself among friends in the universe.”

As for religion and the afterlife, we have the following words:

“If my body will have a mind even after I’m dead, then death matters less to me.”

If readers believe it’s odd to discuss rocks, flakes of skin, etc. in this kind of way, then this is Goff himself discussing rocks, oceans and air with Robert Lawrence Kuhn:

“If panpsychism is true, we have a moral duty to extend compassion not just to humans and animals, but to all aspects of the universe — rocks, oceans, even the air we breathe. It redefines what it means to live ethically.”

Philip Goff’s Feelings

Where there is politics, there are strong feelings. Here’s Goff on his own feelings, which he expressed on the Ezra Klein Show in 2023:

“The fact that consciousness might permeate everything fills me with a sense of wonder. It’s not just an intellectual exercise; it’s a feeling that drives me to explore this idea further.”

Goff added more to that when talking with Sam Harris. He said:

“When I walk in the forest and consider that the trees might be conscious, it stirs something deep inside me — a connection that materialism can’t provide. That emotional pull is part of why I defend panpsychism.”

One wonders, then, if materialists don’t have feelings, don’t care, and don’t enjoy walks in the forest.


Part Two: David Chalmers’ Apolitical Panpsychism

David Chalmers in 2021. Wiki Commons. Source here.

Some of the upcoming passages quoted from David Chalmers could have been aimed directly at Philip Goff. This isn’t to say that they were aimed at Goff: it’s simply to say that they could have been.

Throughout his career, Chalmers’ primary concern has been the nature of consciousness. Thus, it’s not a surprise to hear him saying that “[p]anpsychism is about explaining consciousness, not reforming society”. In more detail, he said:

“The hard problem of consciousness is to explain how and why we have qualitative experiences. [ ] This is a problem about the nature of experience, not about societal structures.”

Of course, panpsychism is very different to many other theories, and Chalmers would happily admit that. Chalmers himself tells us that the big difference is that consciousness may be distributed, which, of course, ties into panpsychism. In Closer to Truth (Season 19, Episode 5), he said:

“Panpsychism is an interesting hypothesis about the distribution of consciousness. Whether it has practical implications depends on how it’s interpreted, but that’s not my focus.”

The words “depends on how panpsychism is interpreted” seem to be an example of Chalmers admitting that given a certain interpretation, then panpsychism may well have practical implications. However, even within the domain of interpretation, surely some interpretations are like square pegs being forced into round holes.

It’s also no doubt true that an acceptance of panpsychism may well have practical political implications. However, what if such implications are driving the commitment to panpsychism itself?

Friday, 19 December 2025

Why Karl Popper Downplayed Scientific Observation…

 

and played up scientific theory (or even “points of view”). It may seem odd to claim that Karl Popper downplayed scientific observation. This may be a position which many readers will associate with “radical” philosophers of science (such as Thomas Kuhn and Paul Feyerabend). However, downplaying observation isn’t the same as erasing observation. Indeed, this essay will attempt to clarify what exactly Popper’s position was.

Karl Popper in 1980. Wiki Commons. Source here.

Karl Popper told two anecdotes to get his point across about what can be called the observations-first philosophy of science. The first anecdote was about a group of physicists (i.e., not philosophers) he was teaching in Vienna in the 1920s. Popper attempted to show these scientists why the observations-first position is “absurd”. Firstly, he said:

“‘Take pencil and paper; carefully observe, and write down what you have observed!’”

Predictably, the student physicists wanted to know what Popper wanted them to observe. So even though they might well have believed themselves to be observations-first physicists, they still wanted to know what it was they were supposed to be observing.

Yet if observation is everything, then they had no right to ask that question. (Or at least Popper seemed to believe that.) Again, observation must be motivated by things which are extraneous to the observation itself.

Popper’s second example seems just as extreme — at least in retrospect. He told his readers about a

“man who dedicated his life to natural science, wrote down everything he could observe, and bequeathed his priceless collection of observations to the Royal Society to be used as inductive evidence”.

At least here this natural scientist recognised the distinction which can be made between “pure” observations, and what may follow from them. In other words, he deemed his observations to be the fuel/ammunition (i.e., “inductive evidence”) to be used by other scientists. Yet this man still believed that he was simply observing “everything he could observe”. In other words, he didn’t believe that his observations expressed any “points of view” (see later), theory, interests, etc. Thus, he believed that all the theorising came later, when, in actual fact, he too was guilty of it. After all, and to state the obvious, he probably never went out of his way to observe a piece of shit on the ground, the stars in the sky, or anything else that didn’t interest him.

All this may seem like a simplification — or even a caricature — of a previous philosophy of science. Yet the English philosopher John Cottingham stated that both Francis Bacon and J.S. Mill believed that

“the characteristic method of science is to proceed from particular observations to general laws or theories”.

Popper on Scientific Points of View

One way in which Popper squares with later “radical” philosophers of science was when he stated that “there must always be a point of view”. He went on to provide some examples: “a system of expectations, anticipations, assumptions or interests”. In simple terms, scientific research, theorising or experimentation wouldn’t even occur in the first place if it weren’t for these points of view. Popper opposed this to the traditional observations-first position, which he stated is “still so widely and so firmly held that my denial of it is often met with incredulity”.

So scientists don’t just go out into the world and randomly observe things without prior expectations, anticipations, assumptions and/or interests. Indeed, all these points of view can be fleshed out individually. Thus, scientific observers expect at least some things (of a known kind) to happen. They assume that certain things will happen. Perhaps more importantly, they have an interest (whatever form that may take) in what it is they’re observing.

Popper later comes at this from a slightly different angle. He wrote:

“Observation is always selective. It needs a chosen object, a definite task, an interest, a point of view, a problem.”

Popper then broadened all this out by pointing out the fact that scientific observers require a scientific language… and much else. In Popper’s own words, the description of any given observation

“presupposes a descriptive language, with property words; it presupposes similarity and classification, which in its turn presupposes interests, points of view, and problems”.

The Interpretation of Nature

Popper went further than a mere stress on points of view by stating that

“our attempts to force interpretations upon the world were logically prior to the observation of similarities”.

Here interpretation is stressed. Now the importance of interpretation in physics is usually only seen within the domain of quantum mechanics. Yet Popper was arguing that scientific interpretation occurs across the board. Popper also wrote that scientists don’t “wait[ ], passively [for nature] to impress or impose regularities” on them. Instead, they “actively try to impose regularities upon the world”. In other words, the world (or nature) itself doesn’t tell scientists what to think and say about it. And it certainly doesn’t place its own theories on their plate.

Furthermore, where there are human interpretations there are human “inventions”. Popper also called such inventions “conjectures”. Such conjectures are “boldly put forward for trial, to be eliminated if they classed with observations”.

Popper and Hume

Popper expressed his position against observations-first science by going back to David Hume’s idea that observation alone isn’t enough when it comes, specifically, to induction and causality. In Hume’s case, it’s not theory which comes first, but “habit and belief”. Thus, Popper quotes Hume stating the following words:

“‘[E]ven after the observation of the frequent or constant conjunction of objects, we have no reason to draw any inference concerning any object beyond those of which we have had experience.”

Anything more we draw out of constant conjunction is not down to any observations we may make. We need to bring something else to the party. In Hume’s case, it was “habit and belief”. For Popper, it was theory and/or points of view. (The latter being similar to Hume’s habit and belief.) Popper himself concluded (from Hume’s words above) by stating that

“[a]s a result we can say that theories can never be inferred from observation statements, or rationally justified by them”.

We know that observation-first science and philosophy still existed when Popper wrote those words because he used the words “observation statements”. Observation statements were the building blocks of logical positivism’s philosophy of science… at least at a certain point in history. (In actual fact, logical positivists had slightly different views on observation statements.)

Popper in Favour of Observation

All the above said, it certainly wasn’t the case that Popper was attempting to get rid of the need for observations. Obviously not. However, such observations are “rarely accidental” in that they’re

“undertaken with the definite intention of testing a theory by obtaining, if possible, a decisive refutation”.

Again, the theory comes first, and only then are observations made (or cited) as a means to establish a specific end. (In this case, that end being to test the theory.) Again, Popper didn’t deny the importance of observation. He simply argued that observation isn’t everything, and it doesn’t come first. Here’s one example of that. Popper wrote:

“If observation shows that the predicted effect is definitely absent, the theory is simply refuted. The theory is *incompatible with certain possible results of observation*.”

In this instance at least, observation trumps theory. However, that doesn’t mean that the observation somehow came before any theories. This means that an observation which is already coloured with theory (or points of view) trumps another theory. So we really have two theories at different levels. In other words, we have an observation (which is coloured with theory) trumping a theory which is, well, more theoretical.

To repeat: is the prior theory really completely free of all observational data? More accurately, is it really free of all previous observations? In other words, the observations used to test the theory may come after the theory has been established. However, the theory itself will already have observational content. Indeed, it’s hard to know what a scientific theory would look like if it didn’t contain (in some way) any observational or empirical content.