Thursday, 19 June 2025

Are Insects and Plants Organic Machines?

 This essay asks the following question: Are insects and plants organic machines? It does so in the contexts of Robert Kirk’s semi-mechanistic position and Philip Goff’s panpsychism.

The British philosopher Robert Kirk (as found in his paper ‘How is Consciousness Possible?’) uses the term “pure stimulus-response system” to refer to the behaviour of a fruit fly. The panpsychist Philip Goff, on the other hand, doesn’t even see the behaviour of plants in such mechanistic terms. Indeed, his position on trees particularly seems to be obviously (at least to me) anthropomorphic.

The position of the mathematical physicist Roger Penrose (on the complex behaviour of paramecium) is also discussed. Whether Penrose’s position is another example of panpsychism is open to debate. (Penrose himself throws various spanners into the works.)

Weighing Machines and Plants

Robert Kirk argues that a weighing machine “can do nothing with the information” it receives from the inputs — i.e., things placed on the scale. However, the machine does react differentially to different weights. Thus, “it gives us information we can use”. Yet, more relevantly, this machine “cannot assess its situation, and it cannot initiate or control its behaviour”. It is, according to Kirk, a “pure stimulus-response system”.

Is a weighing machine pretty much like a plant in these respects?

The panpsychist philosopher Philip Goff thinks not.

Although a plant can be seen as a “pure stimulus-response system” (even if biological), Goff chooses to see things differently. He writes:

“[W]e now know that plants communicate, learn and remember. I can see no reason other than anthropic prejudice not to ascribe to them a conscious life of their own.”

It’s important to note here that Goff doesn’t use the words “communicate”, “learn” and “remember” metaphorically (or loosely). He really believes that plants have a “conscious life of their own”. Yet plants may be similar to weighing machines in at least the respects so far discussed.

In Kirk’s own terms: does a plant “asses its situation” or “initiate or control its behaviour”? A plant certainly behaves differentially to different external conditions — as does a weighing machine. But does it initiate or control its behaviour? Yes, but only in the strict and limited sense that every plant of the same species does so in the same way. And if every plant responds in the same way to the same external conditions (or stimuli), then is it correct to say that it initiates or controls its behaviour? Semantically, or in terms of stipulation, perhaps it is.

Similarly, does a plant “asses its situation”?

Again, yes, but only in the same way that every other plant of the same species does so. So, in identical conditions or with identical stimuli, all plants of a given species (to use scare quotes) “behave” or “respond” in the same way. However, if there are any slight differences, then that will be because there are slight differences in the environment which haven’t necessarily been noted.

Computers, garden sensors, piano strings, weighing machines, etc. respond to stimuli is specific ways. So too do plants.

So does biology make a difference here?

Next comes the possibility of interpreting the behaviour of plants in human-like terms. And that’s precisely what Philip Goff does. He writes:

“The mycorrhiza structures [between tree roots and fungi] allow for a complex system of egalitarian redistribution.”

We’ve already seen that Goff believes that plants “communicate, learn and remember”. And it can be concluded that all his interpretations must surely be based on the physical behaviour of plants, not on any access to their (to use Rudy Rucker’s terms) “inner lives”.

Monica Gagliano on Pea Plants

Philip Goff then cites an experiment by Professor Monica Gagliano. He writes:

“In order to set up a similar scenario with her pea seedlings, Gagliano put a pea plant at one end of a Y-shaped tube, so that it could grow in either of two directions, left or right. In one direction was the seedling’s ‘food,’ in the form of blue light. In normal circumstances, the pea seedlings will instinctively grow toward where the light was last present. However, Gagliano tested whether the seedlings could associate the sound of a computer fan with the presence of the blue light, by repeatedly placing the noise at the end of the tube where the blue light was located. Upon repeated trials, she found that just as Pavlov’s dogs had salivated at the sound of the bell, so the pea seedlings grew toward the noise of the computer fan. In both cases, a sound that was initially meaningless to the organisms had come to represent dinnertime.”

Plants don’t need to hear sounds or see light. Despite that, they can still be causally affected by both sound and light.

More particularly, isn’t it the case that the seedlings in this experiment would have also been causally affected by the sound of a computer fan? So rather than the seedlings “associat[ing] the sound of a computer fan with the presence of the blue light”, they might have simply been causally changed by the sound of the fan instead of the blue light.

So where does Goff’s supposition of association come from?

In more detail. Light is a wave and sound is also a wave — both with very determinate physical natures. Thus, the seedlings might have moved toward the sounds of the computer fan because — in many respects — they were like the waves of blue light. This means that the sound waves of the fan must have causally impacted on the seedlings, just as the light waves had done so previously.

So there’s no (immediate?) need to talk of “meaning”, “association”, “value”, etc. — as both Goff and Gagliano do.

To repeat: might the sound waves (from the fan) have had a similar causal impact on the seedlings as the waves of (blue) light had previously done?

[See the BBC’s ‘Light and sound — reflection and refraction’.]

Goff must also know that even non-biological (i.e., artificial) objects display “movement” in response to their environments.

Take computers and other electronic devices.

Such entities change or move in (causal) response to that which is external to them. Yet, oddly enough, Goff himself doesn’t believe that computers are — or even can be — conscious. Indeed, he spends some time in Galileo’s Error saying so — if only implicitly. (At the very least, Goff seems to be sympathetic to John Searle’s well-known Chinese Room argument.)

Despite focussing on Goff’s panpsychist position on Gagliano’s experiment, it seems that Gagliano herself is a panpsychist… of sorts. (Perhaps that’s why Goff noted her experiments in the first place.)

For example, Gagliano states (as quoted by Goff) the following:

“‘If the plant is imagining its dinnertime arriving, based on a simple fan that is associated to the light, then who is doing the imagining? Who is thinking here?’”

It’s clear (even if only from Goff’s own words in Galileo’s Error) that Gagliano already had reasons to believe — or hope — that she’d find the results she found. (See Fudge Factor and Experimenter-Expectancy Effect.) After all, according to Goff himself, she actually set up a “similar scenario” to Ivan Pavlov’s well-known experiments on dogs in order to see if her pea seedlings would behave in the same — or in a similar — manner to dogs.

Roger Penrose on Paramecium

In a similar (though far from identical) vein are the words of the mathematical physicist Roger Penrose. Of all animals, Penrose actually cites the case of the single-celled paramecium. He writes:

“For she [a paramecium] swims about her pod with her numerous tiny hairlike legs — the cilia — darting in the direction of bacterial food which she senses using a variety of mechanisms, or retreating at the prospect of danger, ready to swim off in another direction. She can also negotiate obstructions by swimming around them. Moreover, she can apparently even learn from her past experiences [].”

One can detect certain anthropomorphic words and phrases here too.

For example, “retreating at the prospect of danger”, “negotiate obstructions, and “learn from her past experiences”. That said, these words are probably (or possibly) used because it will have been very hard to think of any alternatives.

In any case, can’t the paramecium “darting in the direction of bacterial food”, “retreating at the prospect of danger”, “negotiat[ing] obstructions” and “learning from her past experiences” all be explained mechanistically? (Penrose himself uses the words “which [the paramecium] senses using a variety of mechanisms” about a paramecium.)

Penrose then discusses the paramecium in the specific context of panpsychism, as well as in the context of the possible lack of importance of neurons when it comes to consciousness. He writes:

“If we are to believe that neurons are the only things that control the sophisticated actions of animals, then the humble paramecium presents us with a profound problem.”

Finally, Penrose asks his readers a question:

“How is all this achieved by an animal without a single neuron or synapse? Indeed, being but a single cell, and not being a neuron herself, she has no place to accommodate such accessories.”

Penrose answers his own question by focussing on the relevance of cytoskeletons and microtubules. He writes:

“It is the cytoskeleton’s role as the cell’s ‘nervous system’ that will have the main importance for us here. For our own neurons are themselves single cells, and each neuron has its own cytoskeleton!”

More relevantly:

“Does this mean that there is a sense in which each individual neuron might itself have something akin to is own ‘personal nervous system’?”

Yet Penrose does indeed qualify his stance with the following words:

[I]t must also be the case that the detailed neural organization of the brain is fundamentally involved in governing what form that consciousness must take. Moreover, if that organization were not important, then our livers would evoke as much consciousness as do our brains.”

Despite all the above, Penrose is at his most (well) panpsychist when he concludes:

“[S]uch (putative) non-computational processes [i.e., in the brain] would also have to be inherent in the action of inanimate matter, since living human brains are ultimately composed of the same material, satisfying the same physical laws, as are the inanimate objects of the universe.”

Robert Kirk on the Fruit Fly

Let’s now move up a few evolutionary levels and tackle the fruit fly.

Robert Kirk writes:

“Much of the behaviour of many insects seems to conform to that pure stimulus-response pattern.”

However, Kirk immediately qualifies (or questions) this position when he tells us that “since even the fruit-fly is able to find its way home, it is capable of learning”. Thus, to Kirk, a fruit fly “is not a pure stimulus-response system in my sense”.

Some readers may wondering if being “able to find its way home” stops a fruit fly from being a stimulus-response system. After all, even its reactions to new environments may still be “hard-wired”. In other words, different environments elicit differential responses which are also machine-like.

For example, roses “act” differentially in different environments. More specifically and obviously, a plant may flower more in one environment than a plant of the same age and species in a different environment.

Kirk also writes:

“[F]lies are hardwired so that if their feet break contact with a surface, their wings are automatically caused to buzz; and if their feet make contact with a surface, their wings are automatically caused to stop buzzing. Similarly, if their feet are in contact with a surface and that surface emits certain chemicals, the fly’s mouth-parts are caused to go into action. (With luck, the surface will be decaying meat.)”

It can be asked how the experts on flies actually know all this. More relevantly, how does Kirk himself know that the fruit fly’s responses are automatic? Even though there are — obviously — hardwired elements to both a fruit fly’s body and its responses, there still may be a remainder which takes it beyond responding automatically. That said, it can be strongly doubted that this is, in fact, the case.


Monday, 16 June 2025

Artificial Consciousness: Mental Acts and Conscious States

 

“Whereas the statement N is in pain, feels comfortable or is depressed implies that N experiences certain states of consciousness, it is doubtful whether the statement N thinks, means, intends, calculates, perceives, concludes or understands implies in an analogous fashion that N performs a corresponding act of consciousness. In many cases, these concepts can be ascribed even if there are no corresponding acts of consciousness.”

“[I]t is doubtful whether the statement N thinks, means, intends, calculates, perceives, concludes or understands implies in an analogous fashion that N performs a corresponding act of consciousness.”

“Unlike the concepts of sensory and affective states, the concepts of mental acts can be interpreted in a way in which they are applicable to entities which (apart from their external performance) are no proper objects for the ascription of states of consciousness.”

“[c]oncepts of mental acts are ambiguous in a twofold way: they have, first, a ‘consciousness-sense’ in which they are applicable only to beings capable of consciousness”.

“[Concepts of mental acts] have, secondly, an ‘achievement-sense’ in which they can be applied also to non-conscious entities such as computers and scanners, provided they show the relevant outward performance.”

“In this latter sense, one can, in a completely unmetaphorical way, say of a computer that it *thinks, calculates or understands*, or of a scanner that it *perceives* certain things, without thereby suggesting that these entities are in any way conscious. Sentences such as ‘The chess computer means *this* pawn, not the pawn in front of your king.’ or ‘This scanner does not adequately see the diacritical signs,’ can be *literally* true.”

“What is irreducibly subjective, however, is the affective quality, the specific ‘colour’ of the emotion, including its hedonic tone and its felt intensity and depth. In virtue of this qualitative component emotions are more than the sum of cognition, excitement and appetition or aversion.”

Wittgenstein and Behaviourism

“Wittgenstein stresses the primacy of behavioural, especially expressive, criteria for inner states over against neurological indicators. Some of the effects of inner states — their expressions in behaviour — is given the status of criteria, whereas their neural causes are only assigned the status of symptoms.”

“[F]or Wittgenstein, certain behavioural criteria are necessary conditions, not of the occurrence of conscious states and acts in others, but of the *ascription* of such states and acts to others.”

“Bernard Rollin has drawn attention to the fact that the habit of cows who have been operated on to eat immediately after surgery must not be interpreted as proof that they feel no postoperative pain. There are rather good evolutionary reasons for the cow not to show typical pain behaviour though being in pain: The cow depends much more on regular feeding than humans (she would be considerably weakened by not eating), and she would be recognisable to predators by not grazing with the herd. If we want to know whether a cow hurts or not, an EEG is in any case the better criterion [ ].”

“i]t would be unreasonable to ascribe pain, say, to a machine, only because it shows pain behaviour in reaction to hurting stimuli”.

“[a] machine uttering ‘I’ propositions is not thereby entitled to being treated as a self-conscious being”.

“[t]he verification procedure proposed by Michael Scriven for consciousness in machine — the robot intelligently answering all sorts of question about its conscious life — is fundamentally mistaken”.

Philosophical Zombies

“It is true, an *imitation man* would not be able to *feel* anything, but he could well be able to *mean* something, to have *thoughts* or *expectations* — exactly in the sense in which we can apply concepts of mental acts to purely material structures given that they exhibit the relevant complex behaviour. An *imitation man* could even be said to be able to think *itself*, without crediting it with self-consciousness in a sense which presupposes consciousness.”

Wednesday, 11 June 2025

“Consciousness is…”

 The following quotes are only a very-small selection of the hundreds of examples of the “Consciousness is…” statement on social media. Roughly 90% of the comments take that proclamatory form. That’s a large number of categorical statements without argument, evidence or data. So, when it comes to consciousness, the floodgates are well and truly open.

[Scroll down to the end for a concluding comment on this deluge of “Consciousness is…” statements.]

“Consciousness is existence. No debate required.”

— achyuthcn2555

“Consciousness is all that is.”

— Conciente777

“Consciousness is a gift from God.”

— tedgrant2

“Consciousness is an embrace of what is. It is an openness to what is. It is acceptance of what is.”

— heathergrahame9647

“Consciousness: our awareness that things continue to exist even when we can’t see them.”

— justice7788

“Consciousness is a Farsi word ‘کنجکاویست knonch-kavist’ which means ‘Curiosity’.”

— ShonMardani

“Consciousness is More than known.”

— user-wc2kb5wg3x

“Consciousness is a point-like singularity.”

— pandoraeeris7860

“Consciousness is care.”

— AndrewWeisMusic

“Consciousness is a fundamental property of matter/energy.”

— pandoraeeris7860

“Consciousness is what it is.”

— pobinr

“The Vedic Tradition, which says that consciousness is preexisting as an eternal, unmanifest, absolute field beyond time, space, causation.”

— transcender5974

“The answer was provided in Bhagavat Gita as ‘Absolute Truth’.”

— ser-jk8vc5zr9z

“I believe that consciousness is that part of the Energy which forms us, is us, which is aware of itself.”

— pamelastorer8570

“Self-awareness is consciousness.”

— williamburts5495

“Consciousness is the terminus of the observation.”

— kimsahl8555

“Consciousness is a spirit that has a language in evolution to each human being, and then each person needs learn to understand the difference between good and bad (i.e. moral).”

— uanrodriguezsalazar

“Consciousness is the space-field that is fundamental.”

— johnpaily

“Consciousness I.S. Thought ~ Mind Interaction between bits of Information.”

— zeroonetime

“The whole universe is Pure Consciousness; the seamless Ocean of Sat-Chit-Ananda.”

— yifuxero9745

“Consciousness = life, every night I die only to be reborn every morning — so far.”

— johnkuncho7239

“Consciousness is most likely by product of our soul interacting with our brain and the experience we get out of these interactions.”

— afacan33family53

“Consciousness is the basic excitation of superfluid quantum time-invariant space. Consciousness has Planck frequency.”

— stationary.universe.initiative

“Consciousness is the immortal soul.”

— aussierob7177

“Consciousness is like a yummy carrot a darling little bunny eats when they wake up each morning.”

— djtomoy

“Our consciousness is a separate organism that leaves the physical body upon death. Love is the portal to our next existence.”

— ezshooter4180

“Living consciousness is identical to the unified totality of all existence.”

— erawanpencil

“Consciousness is the Information of the Universe and all of Reality. 0=1, Something from Nothing.”

— willelrics9027

“Consciousness is organized information with which we perceive matter, which is also energy.”

— silentbullet2023

“Consciousness is holding the same place in the universe what it holds in a dream.”

— GUPTAYOGENDRA

“Consciousness is what remains when everything is peeled off. It is the ‘I’.”

— SB-wu6pz

“Consciousness is the primordial source of energy — the Cause behind and within everything physical.”

— patbaptiste9510

“Consciousness is all that there is and consciousness is happening within itself.”

— gireeshneroth7127

“Consciousness is perhaps a dimension of the universe same as length, width, depth and time. Somehow the brain through evolution taps into it.”

— geraldvaughn8403

“Consciousness is just self awareness of one’s ‘beingness’ through all of the individualized but intertwined senses.”

— vincentsimon4037

Often, There Is No “Debate” About Consciousness

Some readers might have noticed how confidently the claim, for example, “Consciousness is the basic excitation of superfluid quantum time-invariant space” is stated. It’s as if he’s stating an arithmetical truth. Readers may also wonder what a statement like “Consciousness is care” has in common with “Consciousness is organized information with which we perceive matter, which is also energy”. After all, both statements are supposedly about consciousness.

What we often have above are expressions of spiritual fundamentalism. (“Our consciousness is a separate organism that leaves the physical body upon death. Love is the portal to our next existence.”) They’re the precise equivalent of a Catholic making categorical statements about the Trinity or a Muslim making proclamations about the prophet Muhammed. In other words, there’s no equivocation or modesty here. Most of these people are absolutely sure that their “Consciousness is…” proclamations are true. Yet they rarely argue their case or offer evidence/data. In other words, they have a deep faith in these spiritual truths.

If consciousness isn’t a thing, or even a “process” [see here], then that would explain the multifarious and often very-vague uses of the word “consciousness”.

All that’s largely because of the non-scientific nature of the subject matter. If consciousness were as intersubjective a phenomenon as a cat or a neuron, then we wouldn’t have so many multifarious and vague statements which take the “Consciousness is…” form.

What’s more, there have been dozens — even hundreds — of definitions of the word ‘consciousness’. There have also been hundreds of books on consciousness. It’s a scare-quoted “debate” that’s become — in recent years — hot and trendy. However, it’s also often pointless. The main reason for this is that people are nearly always talking about different things when they talk about consciousness. More relevantly, they define the word “consciousness” (if they define it at all) in very different ways.

As a result of all this, perhaps it would be wise to adopt a deflationary position on the word “consciousness”. Indeed, that’s what the English philosopher Kathleen Wilkes did when she wrote that

“perhaps ‘consciousness’ is best seen as a sort of dummy-term like ‘thing’, useful for the flexibility that is assured by its lack of specific content”.

The psychologists James Ward and Alexander Bain (writing at the end of the 19th century) believed that it’s precisely because of the fact that the word ‘consciousness’ is a dummy-term (or placeholder) that traps us in the mud. They wrote:

“‘Consciousness’ is the vaguest, most protean, and most treacherous of psychological terms.”

With words like that, one can see how it didn’t take long for behaviourism to take up its hegemonic position in psychology and philosophy in the 1920s and beyond.

So do many people simply — if sometimes tacitly — stipulate what they mean by the word “consciousness”? Indeed, is there any way around this?

The philosopher David Chalmers often mentions what he calls “stipulation”. The basic point is that if we stipulate what we mean by a particular philosophical technical term, then the answers to the questions about facts, data, what something is, etc. must — at least partly — follow from such stipulations.

Of course, some (or even many) people will be horrified by the argument that acts of stipulation are decisive when it comes to what we take consciousness to be. Chalmers sums up this problem with a joke. He wrote:

“One might as well define ‘world peace’ as ‘a ham sandwich.’ Achieving world peace becomes much easier, but it is a hollow achievement.”

The problem here is that if people engaged in an exchange are using the same term in very different ways, then we can hardly say that there’s any debate occurring at all. What’s more, this situation is confounded by the fact that the debaters (if that’s an appropriate word to use in the extreme cases) often assume that his/her opponent is using the same term in the same way. That’s the case even when it’s clear to some on the outside that this isn’t the case.

When people bandy around the word “consciousness” and mean very different things by that word, then that situation is far worse than one in which a debater simply makes a statement which is followed by a largely unrelated counter-statement (though not a counter-argument) from his fellow debater. In this former case, there’s the situation that the debaters are at least talking about the same thing. Yet if they’re using their primary term — i.e., ‘consciousness’ — in very different ways, and that use is born of very different philosophies, then that’s even worse than a simple shouting match between two rival debaters. At least in this latter case the debaters are talking about the same thing — even if they strongly disagree with each other.